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Post by clique84 on Feb 26, 2009 20:14:57 GMT -5
Also, I just have to say...no dodges = bad idea
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Post by Tim Small on Feb 26, 2009 20:20:23 GMT -5
Also, I just have to say...no dodges = bad idea That would depend on your deck. Collin MacLeod has no need for dodges. Marcus and Iman can disarm you before you can unsheath your sword. Luther has some of the best blocks in the game. Ranged attacks are the only reason most Immortals will need a Dodge. Dodges are a quick avenue to esacpe an opponent, and most of the time come with a meaningful downside. The English Long Sword gets around this, but then you have to be sparing with your dodges as you are not allowed as many as usual.
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Post by clique84 on Feb 26, 2009 20:27:22 GMT -5
Also, I just have to say...no dodges = bad idea That would depend on your deck. Collin MacLeod has no need for dodges. Marcus and Iman can disarm you before you can unsheath your sword. Luther has some of the best blocks in the game. Ranged attacks are the only reason most Immortals will need a Dodge. Dodges are a quick avenue to esacpe an opponent, and most of the time come with a meaningful downside. The English Long Sword gets around this, but then you have to be sparing with your dodges as you are not allowed as many as usual. Wow is that why you didn't give Marcus a full gridded dodge, because that is pretty much why I will never play him and don't fear him. Dodges work against being disarmed, full grid/wierd attacks, and acoiding power blows without needing to exert. Back in Type 1 we would not play an Immortal if all he had was Back Away. I'm not sayin I'm just sayin'...
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Post by Tim Small on Feb 27, 2009 0:03:43 GMT -5
I'm not saying dodges are bad, nor are the the ultimate defense. Something can be said about a deck that does not need rely on the crutch called Dodge.
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Post by headswillroll on Feb 27, 2009 9:19:25 GMT -5
Dodges have their own nitch in the game, that is for sure. However, I have seen and made decks with no dodges that played very well, just like the flip side of decks with no blocks. It all comes down to the creativity and guts of the player.
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Post by Daijin on Feb 27, 2009 9:30:33 GMT -5
What makes you think you can have 15 of these? He's using the Generic Immortal Pre-Game that reads: "For deck contruction, you do not have to use basic attacks or blocks, as long as you have at least 9 attacks and at least 6 blocks." Bascially, he doesn't need the Pre-game Crystals, the GI Persona has built it, which is pretty sweet! He just didn't says which GI Persona he was using.
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Post by Daijin on Feb 27, 2009 9:36:02 GMT -5
Every card can be called a crutch in this game...different players like using different kinds of cards; you can call Specials and Edges crutches too since players love using them as well lol. I just find calling a card type that is part of the basic fundamentals of the game a crutch a little funny.
It's just all comes down to what style they like. Personally, I like using dodges and blocks lol and it depends what which Persona or WOC I use. But again, all a matter of preference, style and tactics.
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Post by headswillroll on Feb 27, 2009 9:45:31 GMT -5
What makes you think you can have 15 of these? He's using the Generic Immortal Pre-Game that reads: "For deck contruction, you do not have to use basic attacks or blocks, as long as you have at least 9 attacks and at least 6 blocks." Bascially, he doesn't need the Pre-game Crystals, the GI Persona has built it, which is pretty sweet! He just didn't says which GI Persona he was using. I am with Thorr on this one. How is he getting by the six of any card rule? There is no way you can have 15 Upper Center Attacks in one deck that I can think of. There only a few cards that break this rule, like Rebecca Horne pregame upping your dodge by one, Xavier with his plots, Ramirez and his slashes, you get the idea. So does the reference mean 6 UCA plus 9 other upper attacks?
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Post by Daijin on Feb 27, 2009 10:23:02 GMT -5
Oh d**n...that slipped my mind! How the heck IS he getting in 15 Upper Centers?!
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Post by headswillroll on Feb 27, 2009 10:36:10 GMT -5
Light bulb just went on. Ding!
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Post by Daijin on Feb 27, 2009 10:51:11 GMT -5
I see why he did it, to get around Tight Squeeze...but yea..he CAN'T do that lol. I guess those he played against never thought to question how he got in 15 Upper Centers.
I see what he was thinking, he assumed the attacks you put in to replace the basics don't count for the total title rule. yea that's it...9 Upper Centers and then the 6 extra ones...he's not counting the 9 that replace the required basics, only the extra 6.
Yea um...he's gonna have to change that, he can keep 6 of those Upper Centers, but the other 9 have to be different!
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Post by Thorr on Feb 27, 2009 11:28:47 GMT -5
Title restriction cannot be avoided unless specified on the card.
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Post by dbaker on Feb 27, 2009 12:28:55 GMT -5
Was there an Upper Center Reposte in 1st edition? I don't think there was a UC Spinning attack. I am not sure how to get 15 UC attacks.
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Post by Daijin on Feb 27, 2009 13:45:29 GMT -5
He listed it in his deck as Upper Center Attack...so I think he means the card with that title. I also do believe there was a UC Reposte.
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Post by headswillroll on Feb 27, 2009 14:03:12 GMT -5
Sounds like someone is going to be getting some bad news today.
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