zarth2k
Elder Immortal
"So lure him outside and take his head. Problem solved."
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Post by zarth2k on Sept 27, 2007 3:40:27 GMT -5
I have a few friends that play 2nd Ed who really enjoy it. So far, I just haven’t been hooked. The basic personas are still pretty limited at the moment, and it sounds like it could be a year or so before we get more TV Series Immortals. However one thought did occur to me and I was wondering if it might appeal to any one else. What if LM put out 1st Ed versions of cards that are presently 2nd Ed only? Would you be interested in picking them up? Lets say they put out a limited edition conversion set with just the 45 cards or so that don’t fit in to the 1st ed rules along with 1st Ed versions of any personas and WoC that have been changed or newly created. Would it help keep your interest going while you wait for LM to get back around to creating the TV Series Immortals? Would you be willing to buy and trade for 2nd Ed cards that already fit into 1st Ed once you had the conversions? For instance if they converted Felice Martin to 1st Ed, You would still need to get all of her dodges and such that would still only be available in 2nd Ed packs. It seems like a nice middle road to get the old school players buying new product again without taking the focus off of 2nd Ed. Also I think it would make it a much shorter jump from 1st to 2nd for new players that are being taught by older 1st Ed players. Is this something most fans would be interested in or is it just me? Thanks for the input.  |
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Post by jamesmcmurray on Sept 27, 2007 9:23:46 GMT -5
My interest isn't waning because of a lack of series immortals. I'm happy with movies too, although I utterly despise the cartoon's so-called MacLeod character (too whiney and ineffectual for my tastes in a protaganist). But then again, I play both editions, so don't have any interest in a middle ground set anyway.
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Post by dbaker on Sept 27, 2007 12:10:06 GMT -5
Currently there are Grayson and Blaine and soon to be Felice(when the new prize packs are printed with her 1e compatible persona), that are type 1 compatible. A lot of the generic cards are also compatible. The group that I play with in Blue Spring at A-Z comics have been intergrating 2e cards into our decks and it is working out well. We do like tohe new WOC's and the weapon specific cards. I am not sure if there is a need for middle ground cards at this time.
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Post by headswillroll on Sept 27, 2007 21:55:43 GMT -5
Well, the middle ground would most likely be defined as Type One format. Here are the current formats that I am aware of: 1- 1st edition only 2- Type One (1st edition, The Raven{excluding time and trap}, 2nd edition cards that are not bugged) 3- Type Two (2nd edition only)  Headswillroll |
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zarth2k
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Post by zarth2k on Oct 1, 2007 1:11:59 GMT -5
Currently there are Grayson and Blaine and soon to be Felice(when the new prize packs are printed with her 1e compatible persona), that are type 1 compatible. A lot of the generic cards are also compatible. The group that I play with in Blue Spring at A-Z comics have been intergrating 2e cards into our decks and it is working out well. We do like tohe new WOC's and the weapon specific cards. I am not sure if there is a need for middle ground cards at this time. Being in Montana we only have about 8 active Highlander players total all of which have pretty crazy schedules. The chances of getting every one to show up for a sanctioned tournament are small to none at the moment. Add to that that about half the players play 2e and the other half play 1e, and you can see how far we are from being able to get the required numbers for sanctioning. Most of the time we end up playing 4 person round robins with players putting up the prizes. I'm sure with the renewed interest that we all have in Highlander, we'll have enough new people trained or converted (one way or the other) for tournaments eventually. But at the moment, were kinda screwed. Is it possible to buy Prize Packs for Non sanctioned events? (A.K.A gatherings that don't meet the 8-player requirement.) If not, I hope LM will consider an alternate avenue to allow its old school fans to acquire the 1e versions of personas. Having someone that needs to buy new packs to play new personas in the old game is the next best thing to converting them to 2e... and possibly the 1st step. |
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Post by headswillroll on Oct 1, 2007 20:57:05 GMT -5
That is the beauty of the Type One format, it allows the use of both editions as well as Raven, which allows you to use your old stuff and suppliment it with the new stuff or vice versa. Headswillroll |
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zarth2k
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Post by zarth2k on Oct 25, 2007 18:49:26 GMT -5
That is the beauty of the Type One format, it allows the use of both editions as well as Raven, which allows you to use your old stuff and suppliment it with the new stuff or vice versa. Headswillroll Yeah, but until they come up with a "type" that will allow Duncan 1e to Play against Duncan 2e there are still going to be groups spilt by which edition they're playing...  I also hate the use of the terms like “Type one format”. Since when did we become MtG? Doesn’t Highlander deserve it’s own play styles? Perhaps something like “Vintage”, “Renaissance”, and "... cards we hope might come out some day ...”? |
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Post by headswillroll on Oct 26, 2007 4:50:17 GMT -5
That is the beauty of the Type One format, it allows the use of both editions as well as Raven, which allows you to use your old stuff and suppliment it with the new stuff or vice versa. Headswillroll Yeah, but until they come up with a "type" that will allow Duncan 1e to Play against Duncan 2e there are still going to be groups spilt by which edition they're playing... I also hate the use of the terms like “Type one format”. Since when did we become MtG? Doesn’t Highlander deserve it’s own play styles? Perhaps something like “Vintage”, “Renaissance”, and "... cards we hope might come out some day ...”? Understandable on the format naming, the design team went with it so there you go. The only way I see a 1ed Duncan against 2ed Duncan is in a house rules scenario which could also include any other immortals with a 1ed and 2ed version. Since the rules vary so greatly between the old and new you would half to allow for the variances. Headswillroll |
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Post by jamesmcmurray on Oct 26, 2007 8:23:24 GMT -5
I also hate the use of the terms like “Type one format”. Since when did we become MtG? Doesn’t Highlander deserve it’s own play styles? Perhaps something like “Vintage”, “Renaissance”, and "... cards we hope might come out some day ...”? What would changing a label do? It would still be the same setup, game, and rules. |
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Post by Thorr on Oct 26, 2007 16:17:19 GMT -5
I agree with zarth on the naming convention. I have hated since it was first coined.
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Post by headswillroll on Nov 9, 2007 7:20:43 GMT -5
Then why not change it ? It cannot be that hard, the design team has been doing easily. ;D Headswillroll |
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Post by xavier on Nov 9, 2007 9:19:21 GMT -5
I Love the "vintage" appelation...
"I'm Connor Mc Leod of Clan Mc Leod... Just another vintage"
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Post by pseudosoldier on Dec 1, 2007 20:35:54 GMT -5
This may or may not dissuade you, but...
Magic: the Gathering's "Type One" is actually now called "Vintage" (and, IIRC, was at one point called "Classic"). The old "Type One-Five (1.5)" is now
Legacy," and both of them together are referred to as "Eternal."
The term "Type One" is still in common usage of course, especially amongst long time players.
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Post by DNecaise on Dec 24, 2007 0:11:50 GMT -5
This may or may not dissuade you, but... Magic: the Gathering's "Type One" is actually now called "Vintage" (and, IIRC, was at one point called "Classic"). The old "Type One-Five (1.5)" is now Legacy," and both of them together are referred to as "Eternal." The term "Type One" is still in common usage of course, especially amongst long time players. Oh Jesus, I got a nosebleed!  I was all for it til I heard Vintage/Ren/Eternal. Type1 1.5 2 2.25 3.99 Is it an auction or a game format?  |
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Post by headswillroll on Dec 24, 2007 10:09:37 GMT -5
This may or may not dissuade you, but... Magic: the Gathering's "Type One" is actually now called "Vintage" (and, IIRC, was at one point called "Classic"). The old "Type One-Five (1.5)" is now Legacy," and both of them together are referred to as "Eternal." The term "Type One" is still in common usage of course, especially amongst long time players. Oh Jesus, I got a nosebleed! I was all for it til I heard Vintage/Ren/Eternal. Type1 1.5 2 2.25 3.99 Is it an auction or a game format? HAHA that was a good one. Hopefully this will end the naming dillema. Headswillroll |
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