Kurgan
Immortal In Training
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Post by Kurgan on Dec 13, 2006 7:44:11 GMT -5
Will the thousands of 1st edition cards that I own be compatible with 2nd edition?
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Post by jamesmcmurray on Dec 13, 2006 9:16:37 GMT -5
We need a FAQ for this question. There will be two tournament formats. Old cards will be allowed in one (Type I) and tyhe other will be 2nd edition only. The old cards will be FAQed to be made up to date with the new rules, and most of them should work unchanged. When playing in old style tournaments the gems will not be used, and any cards that reference them will not work.
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Kurgan
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Post by Kurgan on Dec 13, 2006 12:15:13 GMT -5
We need a FAQ for this question. There will be two tournament formats. Old cards will be allowed in one (Type I) and tyhe other will be 2nd edition only. The old cards will be FAQed to be made up to date with the new rules, and most of them should work unchanged. When playing in old style tournaments the gems will not be used, and any cards that reference them will not work. Hi Jim, I haven't seen your name in a long time. How's it going? As for an FAQ, I think you're right! As us original players start gravitating toward 2nd edition, this question will probably come up quite often So based upon your answer, the 1st edition gems found on the older cards (A&T, 4H) should be ignored in Type 1? Will those same cards by useable in Type 2? Let's talk about the future of Type 1. Will we ever see new cards for Type 1, or are we stuck using the ones we have forever? Scott Kowalczuk Former New England Regional Coordinator Highlander CCG
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Post by jamesmcmurray on Dec 13, 2006 12:21:31 GMT -5
Yeah, no gems in T1.
T2 will be completely 2nd edition, so older cards aren't allowed even if they're gemmed.
I'm pretty sure we'll never see new cards for type I. One of the driving forces behind seperating them was card backs. They'd have to print different card backs if they wanted a card to be strictly T1 material.
However, every new card that doesn't specifically refer to gems will be usable in T1, so in that respect we'll be getting new T1 cards every set.
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Kurgan
Immortal In Training
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Post by Kurgan on Dec 13, 2006 12:28:28 GMT -5
Yeah, no gems in T1. T2 will be completely 2nd edition, so older cards aren't allowed even if they're gemmed. I'm pretty sure we'll never see new cards for type I. One of the driving forces behind seperating them was card backs. They'd have to print different card backs if they wanted a card to be strictly T1 material. However, every new card that doesn't specifically refer to gems will be usable in T1, so in that respect we'll be getting new T1 cards every set. LOL, I'm reading 2 different answers in your post. On one hand, you're saying Type 1 cards will not be useable in Type 2 tournaments because of the different backs. On the other hand you're saying that non-gem specific Type 2 cards should be useable in Type 1
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Post by Tim Small on Dec 13, 2006 12:59:41 GMT -5
You will have to use sleeves, that cover the back of the cards, just like in Legend of the Five Rings.
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Post by prowler7 on Dec 13, 2006 16:42:36 GMT -5
You will have to use sleeves, that cover the back of the cards, just like in Legend of the Five Rings. Here is the BIG question - Since personas from 1ed are being reprinted with new cards and abilities in 2ed, how will those personas work in a Type 1 tourney? A. You dont play any 2ed cards in Type 1 (I cant see this happening) B. You play the NEW persona and thier cards only in Type 1 C. You can choose which version of a persona to play, but must only play persona specific cards from that set D. You can pick and choose which persona and persona cards you use (I cant see this happening either) E. Some other choice that I havent thought of
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Post by jamesmcmurray on Dec 13, 2006 16:52:29 GMT -5
I'd vote for D, with specific bannings or errattas being done if necessary to stop abusive combos.
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Post by prowler7 on Dec 13, 2006 17:11:31 GMT -5
I'd vote for D, with specific bannings or errattas being done if necessary to stop abusive combos. I really dont like option D. For me, B or C would be the best option. It would involve the least amount of errata and the least confusion. I just read the message from Tim on the mailing list regarding the old school player and his gripes. You know, Tim, you and I have not always gotten along, but I have always respected you. After reading your responses to his post and your responses on these boards, I respect you a lot more.
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Post by Tim Small on Dec 13, 2006 17:21:18 GMT -5
Why thanks, I think honesty is the best awnser. I will want to talk with you one on one this weekend on the errata issue and maybe setting up a community of players to look at the new cards and make them compatable with the old sets. I would like to see this, but I dont think I will have time to actually go through this myself.
I do have an ingenous way of getting it done, lets just say it requires web access and a color printer.
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Post by rplantau on Dec 13, 2006 21:24:40 GMT -5
You will have to use sleeves, that cover the back of the cards, just like in Legend of the Five Rings. I heard that opaque-backed sleeves were banned in many CCG tournaments due to abuse, as players marked them to cheat.
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Post by Tim Small on Dec 13, 2006 21:32:50 GMT -5
Eventually we will have card sleeves coming out with pictures of ummmm...like the Kurgan, Connor or the other Immortals.
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Post by ImmortalJedi on Dec 13, 2006 22:00:31 GMT -5
Highlander based card sleeves!?!? Let me be the first to say.... COOL!
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Post by jameskieffer on Dec 14, 2006 4:21:19 GMT -5
now that Is something i will definatly buy.
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Post by prowler7 on Dec 14, 2006 6:13:51 GMT -5
Heya!
The following is taken from a posting on the Highlander Yahoo group made by Brent Bailey, it spells out the three tournament formats fully supported by the company at the of 2ed -
Second Edition - Only cards made on or after December 15th, 2006 will be allowed. All 2nd edition cards use the Crystal mechanic and also all decks follow the Master Deck Construction rules. These cards are all white border. 2nd Edition is the new 'main' format and the World Champion of Highlander will be recognized from a 2nd Edition tournament.
First Edition - All TCGames and Raven set cards made prior to Second Edition are playable. All these cards contain black borders. All cards made after December 15th, 2006 are also playable so long as they do not contain the 2nd edition only icon found on the right side of the card (only about 25% of the new edition). Entire new immortals are made that are playable in both first and second editions. If editions are mixed, colored deck protectors must be used. All major conventions will have multiple First Edition tournaments and a World Champion for First Edition will also be crowned.
Lean & Mean - Both above formats will also be supported in the standard Lean & Mean rules.
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