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Post by thelovebus on Apr 1, 2011 19:38:57 GMT -5
Not too mention he was never Kicked out of the Clan like Duncan or Connor in that Respect he is more Clan Macleod than either.
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Post by clique84 on Apr 1, 2011 19:47:35 GMT -5
He never renounced it literally, im talking more actions wise
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Post by thelovebus on Apr 1, 2011 20:57:28 GMT -5
So he's a Bad guy who was never kicked out of the clan. That makes him not Clan Macleod why? The Chieftain was the Bottom Line in determining who was in and out of the clan. Being born into the clan sure gave you automatic membership but it could be taken away by the chief. If he does not take it away you are a Member. In Kell's case he was never kicked out of the clan so why would he not currently be a Member. As with Connor and Duncan They were both kicked out for being immortals and are no longer members of the clan but we consider them too be. IMO Kell has more right to claim Clan Macleod Membership than either Connor or Duncan.
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Post by clique84 on Apr 1, 2011 21:26:39 GMT -5
So by your logic, since the Chieftain is never expressly shown bestowing clanhood on Jacob, a foundling baby, then he's not of the clan? And before you say anything, Connor and Duncan were "born into the clan" as far as anyone knew, and were only stripped after Immortality.
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Post by thelovebus on Apr 1, 2011 21:41:42 GMT -5
No by my logic he was adopted into the clan just like connor or duncan and his membership was never taken away. Now it would have had he been known to be an immortal like Duncan or Connor but bottom line it wasn't. Adoption was common then and it did bestow membership into a clan.
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Post by thelovebus on Apr 1, 2011 22:08:32 GMT -5
I could also argue this point. Straight from the Wiki. Historically, a clan was made up of everyone who lived on the chief's territory, or on territory of those who owed allegiance to the said chief. Through time, with the constant changes of "clan boundaries", migration or regime changes, clans would be made up of large numbers of members who were unrelated and who bore different surnames. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_clan#Clan_membershipSince we Know Kell lived in Glenfenian we know he was in the clan Macleods territory which would make him a member.
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Post by Tim Small on Apr 5, 2011 20:19:45 GMT -5
Here is the quick response for ya, Clan cards are foor immortals who have been banished from Clan MacLeod, so Kell never being banned does not have access to the cards. He does however have access to some nice generic cards that fit his personality. Examples:
Lay Down and Die EVENT Tear all your cards in half and throw them in the nearest trash can, you lose the game.
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Acting Studio LOCATION While sleeping at the Acting Studio, all your cards can be countered by your opponent by discarding a card from your hand.
Or
My Sig Has a Large Crappy Movie Clip That Chokes Most Computers Frame Rates SITUATION You lose an ability for each card you play. You may not Nullify, Remove this card from play or alter ownership of this card.
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Post by thelovebus on Apr 5, 2011 20:56:16 GMT -5
Umm The Acting Studio would e Fun since Locations are effect both players and thanks for reminding me to change the gif in sig.
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Post by headswillroll on Apr 6, 2011 17:44:23 GMT -5
Umm The Acting Studio would e Fun since Locations are effect both players and thanks for reminding me to change the gif in sig. All I can say is thank you for changing the monster pic that takes up half the screen.
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Post by thelovebus on Apr 6, 2011 20:00:47 GMT -5
So no other Opinions on Kell?
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Post by clique84 on Apr 6, 2011 20:48:24 GMT -5
I already gave mine
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Post by kurganfan on Apr 6, 2011 22:01:57 GMT -5
Kell as a member of Clan Macleod would sully the good names of those who burned Connor's mother at the stake and chased him and Duncan from the area. Besides, he doesn't need to have access to Master's Trick or god forbid Loyal Clansmen and Rachael Macleod.
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Post by thelovebus on Apr 6, 2011 23:13:41 GMT -5
Why would Loyal Clansman and Rachel Macleod give him an Advantage he doesn't key off allies. The cards that would be good for him Evades (he doesn have too play ELS) , The Highlander, and Clan priest and that is it IMO. Master's Trick ok not as good with him but he does have master's room so would probaly play it but would only get half the advantage off of it.
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Post by kurganfan on Apr 7, 2011 5:24:23 GMT -5
It does give Kell advantages and additional options he probably shouldn't have. If he were really that unbeatable, he probably wouldn't have stood there gawking while Duncan gave him the ole MHS. So, lets let Clan be Clan and not invite Jacob to the party.
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Post by thelovebus on Apr 7, 2011 11:34:23 GMT -5
But no one has given me a legitimate reason why he should not be considered clan Macleod. Also the cards do not break him make him better sure more cards make immortals better but not broken.
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