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Post by braxus on Feb 11, 2009 18:11:38 GMT -5
This tuesday we played Type 2 constructed. I didn't have time/was too lazy to make a whole new deck, so I scaled up my Corda+Reno Lean and Mean Deck from last week to constructed size.
My basic Strategy was milling from your opponent's endurance with Outnumber, Hoverboard and the Ring. In case this didn't work for some reason, I would have Hunter:Damage and James Horton events to go for straight damage. And with the Kris I would have unblockable Stabs and Expert Thrusts as a little extra nastiness.
Those were the contestants:
Joe (Kurgan - Two-Handed Broadsword)
Josh (Luther - Scimitar + Shield)
Thomas (Corda + Reno - Kris + Shield)
Van (Ramirez - Katana)
My first game was against Joe and his also somewhat hastily assembled Kurgan deck. I got hit hard in the second turn by a unblockable and undodgeable power blow for 5 points of damage. After that, being outnumbered with a hoverboard floating above his head made him exhaust pretty quick. I even managed to take his head.
Josh would use his Gathering to put Luther's hilt in play in the first turn of his match against me. This made me very unwilling to attack with anything else but Stabs and Expert Thrusts. But that was okay, since Outnumber, Hoverboard and some damage events got the job done in the end.
My last game against Van was pretty tough. He was using the Zachary Blaine Quickening which he lost to Josh. He would play a hidden slash almost every turn which would hit me almost every turn since I did not have any full-grid dodges in my deck. As I was seeing myself cut into little slices, I managed to play two Hunter:Damage events in two consecutive turns and Outnumber again helped to make him exhaust the turn after that.
Final Results
Thomas, 3-0, 1 head taken
Josh, 2-1, 2 heads taken
Joe, 1-2, 1 head taken
Van, 0-3
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Daijin
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Post by Daijin on Feb 11, 2009 18:47:53 GMT -5
To Tim Small: still want to say people are exaggerating about the power of cheese decks when one just dominated a tourney with no losses? lol
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Post by 5thhorsemen on Feb 11, 2009 19:37:01 GMT -5
Daijin are you on a one man crusade against type 2 direct damage or what?!?
My little add to this report
Round 1 - Myself (Luther) vs. Van (Ramirez) - This was the best round of the night for me. I was feeling healthy (as the night progressed I started feeling sicker) and more importantly to the report Luther set up very fast. I was touting it as a crystal-less and mostly evade-less Luther which it was. First turn I dropped Hunter prone and the turns there after were the hilt and a lighthouse. Van relieved me of the hunter:prone and about 4 turns later I relieved him of his head. The hilt +lighthouse means he was having to exert for a dodge every turn and three of the four turns I threw headshots.
Round 2 - Thomas (Corda and Reno) vs. Me (Luther) - As Thomas said I dropped the hilt first turn and then the Lighthouse a few turns later. After Thomas saw what I did to Van he kept his attacks to those that couldn't be blocked. I did one of the duo out but in the end Corda couldn't deliver final death to the downed Luther. It retrospect I probably could have won this round if I had saved my there can be only one until after Reno took a dirt nap.
Round 3 - Joe (Kurgan) vs. (Luther) - Joe was the one who convinced me into playing the Scimitar over the Short Sword during the day. When he came in and saw I was switching to the scimitar he was worried how his deck would fair. I again dropped Luther's hilt first turn and followed with Hunter Prone. Back and forth we went, I pushed Joe through his endurance twice and had earlier delivered two points of "cheese damage" via a Hunter 1 dmg. So with the lighthouse out now Joe through a Lower Powerblow, I Blocked and delivered a headshot. The exertion gods did not smile on Joe or the Kurgan.
If you are trying to start your crusade with this as your battlefield, I will tell you now I had next to no protection for overturn cheese and 0 versus direct damage. If I changed the deck slightly I think I could handle the Corda and Reno as it was I think I may have lost because I became over-zealous.
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Post by braxus on Feb 11, 2009 20:02:11 GMT -5
@dajin
My tournament win does not prove anything. I won 1 tournament with 4 players. This is hardly representative and statistically clearly insufficient to allow any generalization about the performance of cheese decks. But I guess we can keep track of upcoming tournament results to get a better picture of how well cheese decks do as compared to other deck types.
In my opinion it all depends on, as Josh already pointed out, if you are willing to include some extra cards into your deck that are useful against a cheese deck but possibly useless against a straight attack deck.
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Post by Tim Small on Feb 12, 2009 20:07:56 GMT -5
To Tim Small: still want to say people are exaggerating about the power of cheese decks when one just dominated a tourney with no losses? lol This was not a pure cheese deck, but one that burned you, played attacks that cannot be blocked or dodged and a mild burn deck. Telling me this is a cheese deck, means you obviously dont know a cheese deck from a hybrid deck and need to go look at the post again. Sounds like he had issues dishing out cheese at times, burning at others and not able to hit with attacks on others...but because he was split between three things he probally won. Now, if he said "I played all the cheese I could fit into the deck" I would understand, but he said he added a "few" cheese cards that did and did not work depedning on whom he playing.  Try again |
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Post by Tim Small on Feb 12, 2009 20:12:08 GMT -5
Round 2 - Thomas (Corda and Reno) vs. Me (Luther) - As Thomas said I dropped the hilt first turn and then the Lighthouse a few turns later. After Thomas saw what I did to Van he kept his attacks to those that couldn't be blocked. I did one of the duo out but in the end Corda couldn't deliver final death to the downed Luther. It retrospect I probably could have won this round if I had saved my there can be only one until after Reno took a dirt nap. LOL, about time somone figurered out that you can play attacks against the remaining Corda and Reno persona after the other is at 0 with There Can Only Be One's. |
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webtroll
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Post by webtroll on Feb 13, 2009 11:26:37 GMT -5
Wish I had a "There Can Be Only One"...
Also, what The German Kid and Josh failed to mention is that the direct damage "cheese" was not that affective against me in my Bone Armor. It was the unblockable/undodgeables that keep pinging me. Of course that was just my deck.
Tim is totally right. The German Kid made a rather nasty hybrid attack/direct damage deck. He usually makes some of the more nasty concoctions we have to deal with. There is no overpowered cheese, there is just that one combo deck we are not yet ready for.
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webtroll
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Post by webtroll on Feb 13, 2009 11:27:58 GMT -5
Also, thanks to the German Kid for posting this report. Josh gave me the martian death flu for my birthday and I am just now back to being online. You know it is bad when I am not online at least for a while during the day!
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