hakashi
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Post by hakashi on Sept 19, 2008 21:45:10 GMT -5
After going over a my cards while trying to decide which of the 4 Horsemen were my favorite I came up with a couple questions regarding Caspian's "Famine" as well as a general timing question.. Anyways, famine reads: "All players take 1 damage during their turn for every Famine in play. Any opponent may discard an Ally they have in play or from their hand to avoid all damage due to Famine on their turn.". My 1st question is when does the damage OR Ally discard take place? Is it during the Must Do/May Do phase in regards to the ally discard, or at the very start before the sweep phase? Basically, can it be focused? 2nd, it says "Situation: Plot".... I'm pretty sure this was covered on here somewhere, but is a situation or a plot or both in regards to other cards being to affect it? Lastly in another timing question not related to Caspian, for the Hunter: Discard a dodge and block or take 1 damage, when does the opponent have to discard the darge/block? Their Must Do/May Do or when the card is played? (I've never really been sure) Thanks,  |
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Post by prowler7 on Sept 19, 2008 23:19:10 GMT -5
Famine is now a PLOT, and is handled the same way as Plots in Type Two. If you play FOILED you can avoid one Famine card.
The discard, since it is a MAY, should happen in your May Do/Must Do phase. Same should hold true for the Hunter card.
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Post by dbaker on Sept 20, 2008 6:46:54 GMT -5
Anyways, famine reads: "All players take 1 damage during their turn for every Famine in play. Any opponent may discard an Ally they have in play or from their hand to avoid all damage due to Famine on their turn.". My 1st question is when does the damage OR Ally discard take place? Is it during the Must Do/May Do phase in regards to the ally discard, or at the very start before the sweep phase? Basically, can it be focused? 2nd, it says "Situation: Plot".... I'm pretty sure this was covered on here somewhere, but is a situation or a plot or both in regards to other cards being to affect it? Lastly in another timing question not related to Caspian, for the Hunter: Discard a dodge and block or take 1 damage, when does the opponent have to discard the darge/block? Their Must Do/May Do or when the card is played? (I've never really been sure) Thanks, Damage is pending untill your Ability Adjustment Phase. At that point you take damage. Up untill then, you may play cards that negate or prevent the damage. The discard happens during the Must Do/May Do phase. |
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Post by headswillroll on Sept 20, 2008 13:29:30 GMT -5
Answer #1- The damage is pending the moment the card enters play. The discard of an ally being a "MAY DO" effect can happen at any time during your turn.
Answer #2- Any 1ed cards titled Situation:Plot or Event:Plot are now considered only Plots. There is no longer the sit/event attachment to these cards.
Answer #3- The card reads: Your opponent must discard a block and a dodge from their hand. If they do not, they take one damage. Using the text of the card, the discarding of the block and dodge would happen during the Must Do phase.
One thing to keep in mind is that any Must Do's have to happen during the MD/MD phase or when you bring the card or effect into play. Any May Do's can happen at any time during your turn, depending on their function of course.
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Post by headlessone on Sept 20, 2008 16:22:54 GMT -5
Famine has always sucked anyway who would play a card like that......
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Post by prowler7 on Sept 20, 2008 18:00:15 GMT -5
Famine has always sucked anyway who would play a card like that...... You're a funny funny man |
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hakashi
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Post by hakashi on Sept 20, 2008 22:09:57 GMT -5
Thanks for cearing that up guys! hehe, and go figure the 4 horsemen answering a "4 horsemen question" kinda ironic.  |
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Post by prowler7 on Sept 20, 2008 22:48:57 GMT -5
Thanks for cearing that up guys! hehe, and go figure the 4 horsemen answering a "4 horsemen question" kinda ironic. Who better than Caspian and Kronos? |
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Post by headswillroll on Sept 21, 2008 1:07:33 GMT -5
Famine has always sucked anyway who would play a card like that...... JD, that's who. Is your face scrunched up in hatred right now? HAHA!!! |
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Post by headswillroll on Sept 21, 2008 1:08:56 GMT -5
Thanks for cearing that up guys! hehe, and go figure the 4 horsemen answering a "4 horsemen question" kinda ironic. Our specialty. |
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Post by headswillroll on Sept 24, 2008 14:53:05 GMT -5
Also Hakashi, don't forget the rule that has been in place for quite a while now (I would have to look it up to give you the date) concerning the whole Famine/Plot strategy. You may only have one Ally/Plot/Armor of any specific type in play at a time.
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hakashi
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Post by hakashi on Sept 24, 2008 21:22:16 GMT -5
You may only have one Ally/Plot/Armor of any specific type in play at a time. That blows, I didn't realize that.  So then, how would that work for famine (1 damage) and famine (draw, raven set)? Could both be in play since one would be a plot and I *think* the raven one is just a situation... even though they have two different effects and types but share the same title? |
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Post by scottr on Sept 24, 2008 22:56:44 GMT -5
As long as only one is a plot, then you could have both famines out. The rule is specific to a player only having one of a given plot in play at a time, unless the plot states it can have multiples.
(I'm not familiar with the raven famine, so I don't know if it is a situation)
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Post by Thorr on Sept 25, 2008 6:58:11 GMT -5
Same title with different text = different cards. You can have both in play.
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hakashi
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Post by hakashi on Sept 25, 2008 9:47:23 GMT -5
Got ya, thanks guys! |
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