ummyeah
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Post by ummyeah on Dec 31, 2007 15:30:38 GMT -5
Simple Mind -never- affected plots, though. Simple Mind - While this card is in play neither player may have more than one Situation in play at a time. Your opponent must discard all but 1 Situation he has in play. You must discard all Situations but Simple Mind. This card does not affect Situation: Plots. My bad. Simple Mind wasn't used a whole lot in my playgroup. Literally saw maybe two decks that included it.
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kalas
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Post by kalas on Jan 3, 2008 18:27:04 GMT -5
Kronos kill any multi attack deck before the first turn, and that is a problem. Except that, he is not very strong (but I have a deck for each horsemen anyway).
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Post by jamesmcmurray on Jan 3, 2008 18:55:01 GMT -5
Kronos only kills multi-attack decks that don't come prepared for him.
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kalas
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Post by kalas on Jan 4, 2008 8:07:18 GMT -5
James, I need an exemple of multi attack deck prepared for Kronos and able to win, like any other multi attack deck. Please
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Post by xavier on Jan 4, 2008 13:25:01 GMT -5
I think James is talking about a multi attack deck that would actually prevent Kronos from playing attacks.
Weapon bind, Dirty trick Shove...
I might be mistaken, but I think if kronos doesn't attack you, then you are free to play as many attacks as you want on your turn...
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Post by jamesmcmurray on Jan 4, 2008 15:58:10 GMT -5
I was thinking something more reactive than proactive, but xavier's idea works too.
A&T (Break Glass) Balladeer Ceirdwyn Neva Ramirez Master's Advantage
The Kronos (discard) Nemesis is also nice, but I'donly use it if Kronos is a major force in the metagame. The others do the job too without being as targeted.
Neva and Master's Advantage are the best options, but restrict your deckbuilding. A&T is good because it doesn't require your special card for the turn. Balladeer can also give you a power blow if you need it, and gives you a free attack on the turn you trigger it.
Also, if you're using the Parrying Blade for its Surprise Attacks then a well-timed Master Block can make it really hard for a single attack deck to respond, giving you a one turn window of opportunity.
Also, also try to use your Dual Attacks or Diagonal slashes last in the series. If you force Kronos to dodge or Back Away, his attack options are limited and you may be able to string together several turns of freedom.
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kalas
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Post by kalas on Jan 4, 2008 18:54:28 GMT -5
Xavier Weapon bind means you can't attack either, so the problems of attack/defense stay the same. (Playing to much defense for the defense option of Kronos). For dirty trick, unless it is undodgeable, it can be ducked. And even if the dirty trick is successful remains the thrown dagger option, far to be only a risk in a Kronos hand.
James A n T (break glass)--> I never see this card, but i understand it is a pregame. It's a unique card. I don't think it will be enough. Balladeer--> yes, you right, but, to be realy efficient i guess you must play 6 of them. It could be heavy, or don't play anything else. Kronos couls prepare himself, but it's true, it could helping you to play your deck. Neva and master advantage-->I agree with you, it's a good option, but if you not play Ceyrdwin or Ramirez it's very difficult to play those cards. You must have a Darius, and by experience multi attack deck are big due to number of attack and speed to play. It's not easy to play Darius in this configuration. You must have them first. And Kronos can always play police... Plus, I didn't play (yet?) Ramirez but he don't looking to be a very good multi attack player. It's more the job of Ceirdwyn. It could work with enough luck or preparation, but in this case I am not sure of the result. Who want test? Nemesis--> It is useful to talk about this game option? Every nemesis is made to kill his target if this situation remains in play.
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Post by dbaker on Jan 4, 2008 19:37:44 GMT -5
I have played against Kronos several times in tournaments. Ceirdwyn is tough against Kronos once she gets Neva out. If you are afraid of him Policing Neva, use the edge card "Hidden Resources". Play Neva hidden one turn and the next reveal Neva and launch your Multi-Attack Barrage. Use the Rapier and the Parry Blade. Play 2 attacks the play the 2e Flashing Blades-Event, play another attack and then some surprise attacks. You should be able to throw 3-8 attacks at him. I like to stack my attacks all to 1 side, more of a chance to get thru with several attacks since they all have to be defended separatly. A&T Break Glass is a very useful card when facing Kronos. Sometimes a one time multi attack can severaly damage him and put him on the defense where his ability dosen't bother you.
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Post by jamesmcmurray on Jan 5, 2008 4:16:16 GMT -5
A n T (break glass)--> I never see this card, but i understand it is a pregame. It's a unique card. I don't think it will be enough. Not by itself, no. 6 is way too many. 3 is probably plenty, especially if you also have a Break Glass. If the discussion is about how to get around Kronos's persona power with a multi-attack deck, it seems very useful to mention a card that punishes him harshly for not helping you out. Like I said, I'd only use it if you know you'll be facing Kronos, but if you do know it, then it's kinda a gimme. Even more so if your deck cycles well so you can dump it fast against non-Kronos enemies.
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kalas
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Post by kalas on Jan 5, 2008 20:49:06 GMT -5
I'd only use it if you know you'll be facing Kronos, but if you do know it, then it's kinda a gimme. -->Sure, but this never happen here. We face each other and we play the deck we want. So it's very difficult to put nemesis in our deck, 9 times on 10 it's dead card. The only deck where I play nemesis (2 Kronos and 2 Martin Hyde) it's in Methos.
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Post by jamesmcmurray on Jan 5, 2008 21:40:17 GMT -5
Then you'll probably want to stick to the other suggestions.
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Post by headswillroll on Jan 7, 2008 6:39:00 GMT -5
Then you'll probably want to stick to the other suggestions. Good answer James, considering their "metagame" as you say. Headswillroll
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Post by xavier on Jan 7, 2008 10:33:13 GMT -5
Xavier Weapon bind means you can't attack either, so the problems of attack/defense stay the same. (Playing to much defense for the defense option of Kronos). For dirty trick, unless it is undodgeable, it can be ducked. And even if the dirty trick is successful remains the thrown dagger option, far to be only a risk in a Kronos hand. Wpn bind works... You don't play attack on your turn. Kronos doesn't play one on his turn. Means on your next turn, you can play as many attacks as you want. For Dirty trick... Of course you put 6 of them in this situation. I think Kronos (as you play multiple attacks) will use his duck for something else as with Flashing blades, you're running out of dodges very fast. Thrown dagger.... You are d**n right But who plays trown dagger??? Euh... everybody
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