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Monkeys
Mar 3, 2007 10:01:08 GMT -5
Post by prowler7 on Mar 3, 2007 10:01:08 GMT -5
Heya!
I have been reading again through some of the Handbook and Addendum and came across a change I hadnt seen before. I am wondering if I am correct in this -
Monkeys are no longer considered to be Allies?
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Monkeys
Mar 3, 2007 10:29:21 GMT -5
Post by Thorr on Mar 3, 2007 10:29:21 GMT -5
Monkeys are not allies. You don't give them a proper name anymore, so they are no longer Allies
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Monkeys
Mar 3, 2007 12:23:45 GMT -5
Post by prowler7 on Mar 3, 2007 12:23:45 GMT -5
Monkeys are not allies. You don't give them a proper name anymore, so they are no longer Allies Although dissappointing for Ceridwyn decks (just adds the extra step of "Sources Revealed"), its probably for the best.
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Monkeys
Mar 3, 2007 13:56:19 GMT -5
Post by jamesmcmurray on Mar 3, 2007 13:56:19 GMT -5
Oh yes, it's most definitely for the best.
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Monkeys
Mar 3, 2007 18:19:18 GMT -5
Post by headswillroll on Mar 3, 2007 18:19:18 GMT -5
Where did you find that in the handbook, because the last I knew you didn't HAVE to name them but they were considered allies? Headswillroll
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Monkeys
Mar 3, 2007 19:19:38 GMT -5
Post by jamesmcmurray on Mar 3, 2007 19:19:38 GMT -5
They're no longer named, so they're no longer allies.
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Monkeys
Mar 3, 2007 23:44:46 GMT -5
Post by Thorr on Mar 3, 2007 23:44:46 GMT -5
There is errata in the Handbook - As quoted above
But that is not the most current. The most current errata is int he Handbook Addendum -
This change drastically changes the number of cards you have to discard from monkey by lowering it, but now Monkeys have a continuous effect instead of a 1-time effect.
It changes the way Stacking applies to it as well. With the first errata, stacking would apply, so a player playing 4 monkeys in 1 turn would force a 1 time discard of 10 cards (1 + 2 + 3 + 4). BUt now the effect is continuous and therefore doesn't stack. If the same player played 4 monkeys in one turn, his opponent would now have to discard 4 cards every turn.
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Monkeys
Mar 4, 2007 13:31:25 GMT -5
Post by jamesmcmurray on Mar 4, 2007 13:31:25 GMT -5
What handbook is that from? I've apparently been looking at an old one. I'm looking at eric2001.brinkster.net/handbook.pdf. I've actually got a different link on my home computer because the one I pulled that quote from was an html document not a pdf, but they appear to bet he same file.
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Monkeys
Mar 4, 2007 14:18:09 GMT -5
Post by pseudosoldier on Mar 4, 2007 14:18:09 GMT -5
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Monkeys
Mar 4, 2007 14:58:36 GMT -5
Post by jamesmcmurray on Mar 4, 2007 14:58:36 GMT -5
Ah, I didn't realize they had re-erratted monkeys in the handbook. I wish they'd pull the entry out of the first one when they do stuff like that. Or even better, combine the two into a single document.
That definitely puts the lid on the Ceirdwyn Monkey Machinegun deck, at least as a one turn kill mechanism.
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Monkeys
Mar 4, 2007 18:38:42 GMT -5
Post by pseudosoldier on Mar 4, 2007 18:38:42 GMT -5
I wish they'd pull the entry out of the first one when they do stuff like that. Or even better, combine the two into a single document. I'll definitely second that. Perhaps there will be a new rules committee for Type 1?
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Post by headswillroll on Mar 5, 2007 0:04:13 GMT -5
So is there more than one version of the handbook? I understand that there is a handbook and an addendum. Headswillroll
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Post by Thorr on Mar 5, 2007 8:11:55 GMT -5
No, there is only one handbook and one addendum.
There are some entries in the addendum that modify the handbook overall. That's why it's an addendum and that's why you need to have both handy. When you look stuff up in the primary handbook, you should also check the addendum to see if it was further modified. Although, really, I think that only Monkey and the Richie Ryan Persona have new erratas that override the handbook. There are one or 2 others, but nothing major.
Any entry of the same name in the addendum as the handbook would be updated from the original handbook. The addendum version replaces the handbook version.
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Monkeys
Mar 5, 2007 11:56:38 GMT -5
Post by jamesmcmurray on Mar 5, 2007 11:56:38 GMT -5
Someone with a pdf editor should combine the two. I know they had planned to combine them but the addendum was never officially adopted so it didn't happen.
If someone knows of any Windows freeware pdf editor I'll combine them.
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Monkeys
Mar 25, 2007 2:26:06 GMT -5
Post by rplantau on Mar 25, 2007 2:26:06 GMT -5
There is errata in the Handbook - As quoted above But that is not the most current. The most current errata is int he Handbook Addendum - This change drastically changes the number of cards you have to discard from monkey by lowering it, but now Monkeys have a continuous effect instead of a 1-time effect. It changes the way Stacking applies to it as well. With the first errata, stacking would apply, so a player playing 4 monkeys in 1 turn would force a 1 time discard of 10 cards (1 + 2 + 3 + 4). BUt now the effect is continuous and therefore doesn't stack. If the same player played 4 monkeys in one turn, his opponent would now have to discard 4 cards every turn. Nice to know, I played recently and got "Monkeyed to death" because we didn't know this
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