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Post by prowler7 on Jan 31, 2009 10:45:56 GMT -5
Sidenote: Though I know the Handbook and Addendum are not used for Type One rules, I found out that the old rules team from back them in the Addendum got smart and fixed it so that you could play Discipline: Special when facing Hugh's Fast Talk! It was thanks to rulings like that and people getting used to ways AROUND "Fast Talk" that we left the rule that way when doing OUR rulebook and even de-signatured the card because it had lost enough of its bite. |
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Post by Daijin on Jan 31, 2009 11:14:01 GMT -5
I see...well I like it. I appreciate the efforts to keep the game balanced as much as possible and having no one card dominate it.
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Post by prowler7 on Jan 31, 2009 12:59:39 GMT -5
I see...well I like it. I appreciate the efforts to keep the game balanced as much as possible and having no one card dominate it. Thats the idea. Its what we strive for. |
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Post by DNecaise on Feb 12, 2009 17:00:51 GMT -5
Sidenote: Though I know the Handbook and Addendum are not used for Type One rules, I found out that the old rules team from back them in the Addendum got smart and fixed it so that you could play Discipline: Special when facing Hugh's Fast Talk! It was thanks to rulings like that and people getting used to ways AROUND "Fast Talk" that we left the rule that way when doing OUR rulebook and even de-signatured the card because it had lost enough of its bite. So Fast Talk (1E) is no longer sigged? I may go back to using it if it isn't... |
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Post by prowler7 on Feb 13, 2009 6:17:41 GMT -5
Its no longer signatured
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Post by DNecaise on Feb 14, 2009 5:50:36 GMT -5
Sorry, if I'm slow on the thread. Is there a list of changed cards for 1 Ed? I looked in the addendum but couldn't find where it was changed . Thanks for the answer  |
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Post by Daijin on Feb 14, 2009 8:58:16 GMT -5
As I was told before, the Handbook and Addendum are no longer the official sources for the current rules, only the Type One and Type Two rulebooks. Though those rulebooks don't cover everything yet, so we are at times forced to assume that whatever isn't expressly stated in the new rules is going to be based on what was in the Handbook/Addendum.
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Post by prowler7 on Feb 14, 2009 9:33:20 GMT -5
When it comes to card ERRATA -
Always use the Type One Rulebook. The old hand books do not trump the new one on card errata. When looking for 1ed card errata, if the card isnt in the Rulebook, then it plays as it reads on the printed card.
When it comes to a rules question -
Look first in the Type One Rulebook, if you cant find it there, ask about it. There are some rules and rulings that either were overlooked or never made because the issue hadnt come up (because of the new cards).
In either case, if you choose to use the OLD Handbooks, remember you do so at your own risk. If you go to a major tournament it may be ruled against you because there was a change between old and new. Thats why it is important to ask us, so we are aware of the issue and can get it fixed.
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Post by headswillroll on Feb 24, 2009 22:24:16 GMT -5
Prowler, the only other thing I would have done to drive this point home is to bold this line like this: When looking for 1ed card errata, if the card isn't in the Rulebook, then it plays as it reads on the printed card.Sometimes thick minds need thick words. ;D No offense Punishing.  |
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Post by DNecaise on Feb 26, 2009 19:36:24 GMT -5
Prowler, the only other thing I would have done to drive this point home is to bold this line like this: When looking for 1ed card errata, if the card isn't in the Rulebook, then it plays as it reads on the printed card.Sometimes thick minds need thick words. ;D No offense Punishing. Really, it's hard to offend me Which was sort of my point... I looked in the Type 1 rules(which -my bad) I thought was like another addendum(just adding more stuff)  but you're saying it supercedes... So Fast Talk, Flying Wings, Hogg, & Ram: Master's Advantage have all been unsigged ? Anyone?Anyone? |
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Post by Tim Small on Feb 26, 2009 20:10:40 GMT -5
They are no longer signatured.
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Post by prowler7 on Feb 26, 2009 20:37:11 GMT -5
I looked in the Type 1 rules(which -my bad) I thought was like another addendum(just adding more stuff) We would not have gone to all this trouble only to be an addendum. The Type One Rulebook is called that because it is meant to be a Rulebook, not an add-on to something else. Is it perfect? NO. But we are working on making it more and more complete. As far as 1ed card errata - If it isnt in the Rulebook or the upcoming Errata for that Rulebook, then the card plays exactly as it reads. Mike wanted as many of the 1ed cards to NOT be errata'd as possible, so we went through all the cards and looked at them in the light of the new 2ed. If the card was no longer "broken" then we reverted it back to its original form. The interesting thing is, there are multiple copies of some cards in 1ed, with each copy doing something different. Unless its in the Rulebook, then you get to choose which copy of the card you want to play with. |
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Post by DNecaise on Feb 26, 2009 21:36:51 GMT -5
I looked in the Type 1 rules(which -my bad) I thought was like another addendum(just adding more stuff) We would not have gone to all this trouble only to be an addendum. The Type One Rulebook is called that because it is meant to be a Rulebook, not an add-on to something else. Is it perfect? NO. But we are working on making it more and more complete. As far as 1ed card errata - If it isnt in the Rulebook or the upcoming Errata for that Rulebook, then the card plays exactly as it reads. Mike wanted as many of the 1ed cards to NOT be errata'd as possible, so we went through all the cards and looked at them in the light of the new 2ed. If the card was no longer "broken" then we reverted it back to its original form. The interesting thing is, there are multiple copies of some cards in 1ed, with each copy doing something different. Unless its in the Rulebook, then you get to choose which copy of the card you want to play with. That's awesome & That's what I thought you were telling me Look Scooby... a clue! ;D |
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Post by headswillroll on Feb 27, 2009 9:26:30 GMT -5
They are no longer signatured. Master's Advantage (Ramirez) is still signatured. It is in the rulebook errata section. |
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