Yung Dol Kim Master Head Shot.

[zarth2k]

I understand that under normal circumstances you only do ONE Power blow per turn. But I am putting together a YDK deck and I just noticed a possible odd situation.

Ok. YDKs Master's Head Shot reads: If you play more than one Special card this turn, this attack is a Head Shot. This attack cannot be modified by a Special card(s).

OK. So If I have a Frenzy (You may play an additional Basic Attack during your turn for each Frenzy you have in play. You may discard Frenzy from play during your Attack Phase. If you do, dodges will not avoid multiple attacks you play this turn.)

So I can Play 2 attacks this turn.

I play YDKs Desperation. (Look at the top three cards of your Endurance. You may place all attacks in your hand. Put all remaining cards in your Discard. You may play another Special Card this turn. You may only play one Desperation per turn.) And Find an Upper Left Attack.

I play the Upper Left attack, and The YDK Master head shot.

Then, I play a Head shot event on the Upper Left attack. No reason I can't play it. I haven't made any power blows this turn...

But the Head shot Event (As the 2nd Special in the turn...) activates the Masters head shot turning it into... Well... A head shot. And just for fun, I decide to discard the Frenzy from play to make dodges not avoid multiple attacks.

Sooooo... 2 head shots in the same turn or is there a rule I am missing that prevents this?

[zarth2k]

So I have been further refreshing my self on the rules... I had thought that you couldn't play special(gold grid)attacks hidden. But, I'm not seeing this rule any where in the current rules.

So if I started the turn with Wakizashi: Sneak Attack in play (If the last defense you play during your turn is a successful Block, your first attack this turn may be played hidden. This is a Standing Defense.)Does this mean that if I have played a successful block in my defense phase that the Masters Head shot could have been played 1st as a hidden attack? Soooo... One Hidden Head shot followed by a regular head shot?

OK... Up on further reading, I found the 2nd entry for Special attacks. And the rule has remained the same as I recalled. So the masters head shot could NOT be hidden because it is a Special gold grid attack. The rules should really include important information like that in the opening entry about Special attacks to avoid confusion. Most players will think the 1st entry is "The entry" for a subject.

So we're setting around talking about this and some one asked this. " What if you just have 2 attacks by what ever method (Combination, hilt, what ever will let him play a 2nd special attack.), But the only attacks you have in your hand is your 2 master head shots. You choose to play them both and sacrifice a Frenzy so dodges don't carry over. Then you Play one of YDKs other specials... What happens?

[prowler7]

You cannot make more than 1 Power Blow per turn unless an effect specifically states you can. In this case, no card gives permission to play two Power Blows. Since both cards state that the attack is a Head Shot, it is an illegal card play and you cannot do it. You would have to play some other card instead of the Head Shot, given that was the card that made the whole sequence illegal.

[zogfhyr]

Check out Unyielding Force for the Greatsword.

[zarth2k]

Great Sword: Unyielding Force, Situation.

“If you make an unaltered 5-Card Hard Exertion to make an attack a Power Blow this turn, all your attacks played this turn that may be made Power Blows are now Power Blows. You may make multiple Power Blows. This is a Standing Defense. “

Sure. I know there are cards that break this rule. But they say “Hey! You can break this rule!” If YDKs Masters Head shot included the words “You may make multiple Power Blows.” I would have just finished my deck last night. YDKs HS seems to accidentally break the rules. Considering the alternative would be to have to hold an attack in your hand that you could other wise legally play or hold a special card in your hand that you could otherwise legally play. I’m hoping That you can just play the special, and let the 2head shots go off together. That would seem to be in keeping with the spirit of the card, and the dual weapon build.

[prowler7]

The card does not break the rule, it has to explicitly state that you can do that. There are Head Shot Edge and Object cards that would break the game if what you are proposing is allowed. Also, this card is the mirror image of Kurgans MHS. If Kurgan can play two attacks HE would be able to throw multiples of his MHS under what you propose. This has never been the case. These are the reasons why

[ultra]

Well, technically kurgan cant throw two MHS. Cuz of the white gem.

Anyone can throw two with Unyielding Force/great sword but is very specific combo.

YDK's best card is that security badge.

2 cents.

[prowler7]

What do you mean he can only throw 1 per turn? You can play more than 1 Master Card per turn. If you mean the Diamond Icon, that card does not have a Diamond Icon.

[ultra]

Oh. I thought the white gem is 'diamond' ? I dont have much of any cards right now. (Should have them soon)
So are the diamond icon cards indicated in watcherdatabase ?
Ive been thinking that white gem was diamond the whole time. LoL. A whole world just opened up.

[prowler7]

Yes, there is a black diamond next to the card title. For an example, look at the Terrence Kincaid card “Kenny”

[zarth2k]

Apr 25, 2018 20:38:18 GMT -5 ultra said:

Well, technically kurgan cant throw two MHS. Cuz of the white gem.

Anyone can throw two with Unyielding Force/great sword but is very specific combo.

YDK's best card is that security badge.

2 cents.

My personal viewpoint is that YDKs' strength doesn't lay in his cards so much as his ability to Vapor off 3-4 cards a turn. He should be able to set up combos as well as any one in the game. The trick is figuring out what cards are worth getting in the current game. If he was capable of throwing 2 head shots, then the choice would be easy... If his head shot was considered a basic attack like the MacLeods, then having to use a Katana would have a bit more benefit with lunge. As it is, the Katana at least lets his original Masters Attack serve as a Masters Block. I suppose he would work well with a watcher / hunter build, but that just doesn't match the feel I have for the persona... The worst part about about the ever declining numbers of highlander players (Besides it being so hard to find a game obviously) is the lack of accessible deck tech.