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Post by silas73 on Dec 19, 2006 19:54:49 GMT -5
I am still working off the spoilers here but it lookes like the Basic Attacks and Blocks have attribute gems on them.
Is this correct?
If so, do the gems count against your allowance in the deck?
If so, WHY?
It seems too detrimental that Slan, for example, with Agility of 2 (so 2x3=6 Agility gems in the deck, right?) cannot have even his full slate of 6 Backaway if a Basic or two has an Agility gem. Same with anyone else with very low stats in certain attributes.
Any clarification here would be very appreciated.
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Post by rplantau on Dec 19, 2006 23:59:09 GMT -5
Slan was a pretty nasty hacker in 1st ed with his free power blows/blocks, I'd be happy to see him have some sort of disadvantage in defence. Maybe basics are being gemmed to balance attack/defence locations also? The gems vs attack/defence locations don't seem to make a lot of sense to me though. It could even just be to increase your chances of pulling a gem in an exertion. ?  |
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Post by Brent Bailey on Dec 20, 2006 0:48:38 GMT -5
In future sets, the basics will have different attribute icons, giving every immortal many more options. Plus, the crystals can be used to substitute whatever you immortal is lacking in. So, for a couple sets, Slan can only have three Agility beyond the basics.
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Post by jamesmcmurray on Dec 20, 2006 12:51:03 GMT -5
Ouch! 3 Back Aways only is going to be touch on a guy that already has defense problems.
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Post by Tim Small on Dec 20, 2006 13:33:34 GMT -5
in the next set all the attribute icons will move over one. So Slan in the Movie set will be more viable and able to defend better. until then, he will need to get Crystals to sub out stuff he does not want.
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Post by nkeates on Dec 20, 2006 13:59:52 GMT -5
Hi all
I was under the impression that your first set of basic blocks and attacks did not use attribute points. Has this changed from 1st ed ?
I have copied the relevent text from the "eggs document" from first ed.
BASIC ATTACKS AND DEFENSES
As in Standard Deck Construction, you must include at least one each of the Basic Attacks and Blocks in your deck. However, you do not have to spend Attribute Points on this first set of Basic Attacks and Blocks. Each one you have beyond the first though, you must purchase with Attribute Points.
Best
Nige.
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Post by jamesmcmurray on Dec 20, 2006 14:15:00 GMT -5
Any egg rules from 1e are completely superceded by the rules for 2e. Unless you decide to play a game specifically using those rules they may as well not even exist now.
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Post by nkeates on Dec 20, 2006 16:38:20 GMT -5
I can't find the 2nd ed rules for eggs. They are only mentioned in the rules regarding prone, disarm etc. but not in deck construction. Well I couldn't see them anyway. Is there a link?
Best
N.
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Post by jamesmcmurray on Dec 20, 2006 18:15:05 GMT -5
I don't see them in the online rules either. the short of it is that you may have up to three times each attribute in your deck (except Master, which is 1x). So if your Agility is 3 you can only have 9 agility gems in your deck (including any needed for basic attacks and blocks).
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Post by nkeates on Dec 20, 2006 18:52:46 GMT -5
Thanks James
Yeah I knew about the 3 x each attribute in your deck but can't find anywhere that the original ruling with regard to your first basic attacks and blocks not counting towards your gems has been changed.
Tim, Brent can you confirm?
Best
N.
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Post by Tim Small on Dec 20, 2006 19:37:52 GMT -5
They do count. In the old system, they did not count. In the new system they do. The reason being is this:
If you make a soft or a hard exertion for a attribute, the basic attacks and blocks will interfere with getting any sound result.
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